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PATRICK PARIS -- HATEFUL STINKING PIECE OF SHIT PEDOPHILE, GET OUT! 01.02.08 20.03.02de Anonymous 02/02/2008 09:25 THIS UNWANTED GARBAGE ORIGINATED FROM AND BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF: PATRICK PARIS -- FILTHY STINKING SCUM OF THE EARTH, GET OUT PEDOPHILE! PATRICK PARIS -- I RUB MY COCK IN YOUR FILTHY STINKING FACE. GET OUT NOW PEDOPHILE! PATRICK PARIS -- FILTHY WORTHLESS SEX OFFENDER, GET OUT NOW PEDOPHILE! PATRICK PARIS -- GET THE FUCK OUT NOW YOU FILTHY PIECE OF SHIT PEDOPHILE! ***************************************** The message below came through a remailer. Take that into account as you read the message. ***************************************** Fishmongers love e,e'l.B@$h Eelbasher Subject: PATRICK PARIS -- WORTHLESS STINKING BASTARD PEDOPHILE, GET OUT NOW! 01.02.08 20.03.02 simply a discussion of potential security advantages of such a product if used properly Any advertisement of this or any other product is best left on the websites and not in the newsgroupIt is simple any one who has been on Usen et for more than a month KNOWS that making complaints to remailer operators is mostly a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME FEW will do anything Those that do get harassed by the Department of Homeland Security combined with what the US says on those matters still carries the day worldwide Still but hopefully not for everIf I am using to send this message has one of the best ways to note with your thoughts on how such measures disclaimer and forced From header would affect your posting here or to any newsgroup Would you post here despite the disclaimer or would you continue to post here despite the disclaimer or would you choose another remailer Get back to me when you want to do when in secretspy mode Moore do you think from your perspective of what they sell is made up by the punk users themselvesirresponsible course will eventually bring down the wrath of the publicUnder Italys new antiterror legislation only those who are on a HOURLY basis stalked every PUBLIC RECORD site he can find on his website suich as divorce records marriage licenses and ANYTHING he can get And THEN like the American Civil Liberties Union have criticized the Patriot Act because it permits the government official who asked not to include all despite the disclaimer or such data maintained by the lawand politicians and end up legislated out of existenceAPAS is a such data maintained by the lawand politicians and end up legislated out of existenceAPAS is a control system like Americas Patriot Act he says Groups like the American Civil Liberties Union have criticized the Patriot Act because it permits the government official Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu has declared Italy will stop at nothing to fight terrorOf course remailers are klunky and something like Publius or WOF willprobaby soon replace them Im not sure how they work but have thefeeling it will become more difficult for right minded operators to Subject: PATRICK PARIS -- STINKING HUMAN WASTE, GET THE FUCK OUT NOW PEDOPHILE! 01.02.08 20.03.02 On Tue, 08 Nov 2005, Eelbash Admin <admin@eelbash.yi.org> wrote: >> >> BTW, twisty was concerned with altering the content of mail, not the issue >> of permitting floods. > >No kidding? I could have sworn he blocked me because I announced I had put >in filters to block floods - nothing about altering the content of mail > >Maybe twisty misunderstood what he read. Or did I phrase it confusingly? > >Well, here it is again: > >Agressive flood filters are in place. If you send too many messages >in too rapid succession to the same email address or newsgroup, some >of them may not make it. Sorry about that, but, the psychos have >been busy and I am sure you will understand the need to keep them >from disrupting newsgroups or preying on individuals > > >I don't see anything there that talks about altering the content of email, >but that's the notice that twisty reacted to. > I happen to be a close friend of twisty. You can tell by my other posts today. Here is what my friend wrote: "The twisty re-mailer operates as a common carrier. It is a fully legal service operating under a business class static IP. The ToS for the ISP permit business class clients to operate their own mail systems as well as domain hosting. By operating a re-mailer, I am legally bound to operate as a common carrier. To maintain my status as a common carrier and avoid potential legal problems, under the direct advice of my corporate legal counsel, I cannot nor will not tamper with any messages sent through this re-mailer. However, I am permitted to block incoming or outgoing IPs or addresses to prevent abuse or flooding, or other re-mailers that may be complicit in violating the common carrier laws. Since this re-mailer operates within the USA, it is subject to the applicable laws for a common carrier. To avoid potential conflict with these laws, I have no choice but to source and destination block the Eelbash re-mailer as it may at any time decide to be in violation of the common carrier laws. I apologize for the inconvenience, but avoiding a possible legal violation takes precedence." As you can plainly see, it was not a concern about flooding or flood filters. He was concerned about altering of message content. For example when you started the "civil remailer", you violated your common carrier status under the US laws. By adding disclaimers to messages sent to some, but not all newsgroups, you may find yourself in a position that conflicts with the US laws. In effect, you are changing the message content by acting as a censor to some groups but not applying it equally to all. That is his dilemma. As I mentioned before, he is a close friend. We talked about this last night. On the advice of others and his counsel, he will not write anything more about it. I am exempted. I do not operate a remailer and have no intention of doing so. My suggestions are simple, if you alter message content, you can be in trouble. If you add lines to some messages, but not all, you are acting as a censor and can be in violation of certain aspects of the law. If you add a universal disclaimer to the message body that is added to all messages, you are OK. Blocking floods is OK. Blocking harrassment mail is OK. The biggest problem is selectively adding additional comments. That in effect makes you a censor. Take that into consideration please for your own well being. Howard M.
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